Dividend projection

I noticed that the dividend sum in various part of the site differs, for example on dashboard it will show projected dividend for 2025 as 100k next 12 months as 102k.

In portfolio/dividend/upcoming page it will show 103k for next 12 months.

I am curious whether this is somehow intended - i’ve read the various definition and dont understand why this is possibly different.

Hi there,

It could be the difference of PayDate vs ExDate?

Thanks,
Evan

Thanks Evan. That make sense, the one on the dividend page uses ex date but the one on the dashboard I assume uses pay date.

Oh… You should be able to toggle between ExDate and PayDate for both.

I think not on our end.

We can toggle it for the current year figure but not the next 12 months figure. But i dont think it will make much of a difference.

The more annoying issue is when a projected dividend was updated resulting in duplication… throwing off the projected dividend. So randomly my projected dividend will be 5-10% higher than expected.

I figured it out after looking at the details by upcoming month, deleted 2 duplicating ex date… if there’s a way to auto delete an older projected dividend when a new one is inputed it will be helpful to keep the 12 months dividend more consistent.

You are talking about Custom Assets right?

My observation is for US Hampshire and Stoneweg reit…

I added the actual dividend for stoneweg (as projected dividend) and this inadvertently caused a duplication as the previous projected dividend (based on last year’s dist) was still present causing a double counting for 2h div.

After noticing that is the cause of the spike in dividend i made further edit to delete the duplication.

Someone else did the same for US Hampshire causing the duplication, that was also deleted to regularise the div projection.

Strangely the outdated projection for stoneweg returned this morning - i will put in another edit to delete that.

Thinking whether possible to implement a failsafe check to prevent/flag such duplication on the system end. Logic to flag perhaps if there is dividend for year that is >30% vs previous year with payment date within 30 days of each other will indicate there may perhaps be a duplicating projected dividend? Or simpler still is for new projected dividend to be an edit of the previous one (which i thought i did - yet it still came up as a duplicate). Not entirely sure.

I was happy to see the boost to my dividend but sadly not the case lol

Hope I am making sense to you Evan.

Actually, all edits for normal stocks would need approval by me. I see that they are all normal as far as I can see.

Can you give specific url so that we can be on the same page and maybe talk about one stock at a time? :slight_smile:

Evan - Stoneweg was giving me issue.

https://stocks.cafe/stock/summary/SET/stoneweg+europe+stapled+trust?exchange=XSES

But at this stage I think it’s fine (duplicated div deleted) and divdend cache cleared.

Thanks and sorry for this.

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Hi Evan recircling backt o this chat here.

After some dividend went ex and was updated around a week ago the projected (next 12 month) dividend on the dashboard was bumped up around 10% or so vs what it was previously. The number in the portfolio/upcoming (both announced and projected) still remain stable.

I’ve tried clearing the div cache and waiting it out to normalise.

I believe at this stage this could be a bug as I don’t think my portfolio dividend is hitting that number yet.

Can I confirm that the dashboard next 12 mths should = portfolio/dividend/upcoming 12 mth (projected+ announced)?

If that is the case and there is a 11% variance between the 2 number with dashboard figure 11% higher.

Hi there,

Sorry for the slow reply.

So, you are saying that portfolio/upcoming is not equal to dashboard?

Evan

Yeah it’s not the same.

I think the portfolio/upcoming is correct. The dashboard is showing something >10% higher. Not entirely sure what’s causing it presumably a bug if it’s supposed to be the same.

To be clear - i am referring to the “next 12 month” figure.

Hi Evan,

I DM-ed you the exact same bug with a few screenshots a few days ago. Just realized other people are also impacted by this. Appreciate your help to take a look at it, thanks!

Tommy

Tommy was your experience the same where the dashboard is showing a very optimistic dividend vs the portfolio/div/upcoming one?

I find the dashboard figure to be too much - been using the portfolio figure as reference. I did a big rotation in my portfolio recently and believe the upcoming section in portfolio adequately capture the change.

Yes, that’s right. Started happening to me recently, my dashboard increased by 10% suddenly.

I was happy until I realised it was possibly untrue lol

But just look at the upcoming/portfolio bit - that’s accurate-ish

Haha… Sorry for the false hope :slight_smile:

Okay. Let me look into it now ah.

Okay. Fixed. It is actually just difference between using next 12 months of ExDate (Portfolio/Dividend/Upcoming) vs PayDate (Portfolio/Dashboard).

However, since it confuses users. I will just fix it ExDate which you both seems to think is more accurate :slight_smile:

thanks Evan! It seems fine now - just that I find it strange the ExDate vs PayDate difference can lead to 10%+ difference when it’s only additional 1-1.5 months of dividends… but okay, as long as it’s fixed now it’s fine.

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Evan do you mean there is actually hope!?!?!?!??!?!

lol if its not too much to ask for - curious what’s the breakdown using paydate giving me the 10% higher amount. Possible to have the option to select it in the portfolio/upcoming - to toggle between pay and ex to see breakdown. I am surprised to see such a big variance.